A Peer Review

Any writer knows that the completion of a paper is a lengthy process. Sometimes it is hard to notice errors in your own paper while rigorously throwing ideas on a notepad or keyboard. In class we were paired up with a classmate to make the process a little easier. This was a great help, and I learned many things as a result of doing this. I learned that to review a paper you have to have a rubric with a list of objectives to go by in order to correct any problems that are present in the paper. You have to basically dissect each portion of the paper, the thesis, each main point, and the conclusion of the paper to see if it is all relative to the point that you are trying to prove/disprove. The other aspect of reviewing a paper is just a general proofread, ensuring that the font is correct, there are no grammatical errors, and that you have written the paper in the format that is required. There is also a writing center on campus that can provide these services to students free of charge, making the final draft of the paper much less stressful than it has to be. After using all of these resources, the outcome of my paper will be fine tuned and less subject to pesky red marks that haunt many student's papers.

Website Building with Dreamweaver

In 2007, the Netcraft Web Server Survey estimated that there were about 108 million websites in existence, and every day that number continues to grow. Dreamweaver is a Microsoft program that provides a way for the public to create their own unique sites. A site can be very basic, and on the other end of the spectrum it can be quite complex. As I embark on the journey of building my website for my digital project, there are some concerns I have with this program. First and foremost, to someone that isn't "tech savvy", this website building process isn't easy. A lot of the items that are needed to make the entire site work aren't necessarily readily available, which can create some definite setbacks to anyone's site. I just feel like I will spend more time reading a users manual to the program than actually building the site, so that makes the process a little boring to me. I do understand that a lot is involved when it comes to building a web site, which consequently is why the program is set up the way that it is. On the bright side of things, the structuring process has raised some questions on the content that I intend on making visible to viewers. Do I want this to look like a timeline? How is this information connected to other information on the site? How can I link everything together for a better flowing page? These are examples of questions that can also be applied to my research paper, and can help in the completion of it as well. When the entire process is finished I hope that they can complement each other, and I will have successfully answered all of these questions, and have provided an informative and useful site to my viewers.

Progress Report

Listed below is a general progress report that I have put together on my digital project and research paper over Samuel Walker Houston. This is the progress I have made on my project up until October 20Th.



Samuel Walker Houston Project: Progress Report

Name: Cory Reaves

Title: “Samuel Walker Houston, Modernizer of Huntsville African American Education”
Summary of Progress: Many people are completely unaware of how African Americans were educated prior to desegregation. Samuel Walker Houston was one distinguished figure who took charge at the roots of this issue. Amongst other decorated achievements, he founded the Galilee Community School, which was most likely the first school for African American children in not only Huntsville, but all of Texas during this time. This digital project is designed to take a look back at how Samuel Walker Houston went about accomplishing such a feat, some of the hardships he faced in his efforts, and how he led the small school at Galilee with a single teacher when it began in 1907, to become consolidated with the Huntsville Independent School District in 1930. The research completed leading up to this point consists of six primary sources that are all letters from former president of Sam Houston Normal Institute (the earlier name of SHSU) Harry F. Estill’s records. This first is a letter from who is thought to be President Estill to Henry S. Pritchett, asking for funds to help support the school at Galilee. The next two letters are back and forth from Samuel Walker Houston and President Estill regarding a situation about the possible loss of funding from the " Jeanes Fund”. President Estill looks into the situation and is answered by President of Negro Rural School Fund Anna T. Jeanes Foundation, James H. Dillard in the following two letters concerning the appropriations. The final letter is again from President Estill to Samuel Walker Houston, in which he describes the selling and/or disposal of an old gymnasium building, and refers Samuel Walker Houston to speak with J.L. Pritchett. In accordance with these six letters, two additional secondary sources on the topic are included in the investigation. One is information explaining what exactly the JeanesFund is and who it is available to. The second is an article from “The Handbook of Texas Online”, which summarizes the life and accomplishments of Samuel Walker Houston.

Works Cited:
· Estill, Harry F. "President's Papers." Newton Gresham Library Archives (1912-1913): Aug 1912-Mar 1913.
· Handbook of Texas Online, s.v.”,” http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/HH/fhobs.html (accessed September 14, 2009).
· Louisa County Historical Society, "The Jeanes Fund." http://louisaheritage.org/enlg/JeanesFund.htm (accessed October 18, 2009).

Digital Project Outline:
Samuel Walker Houston, Modernizer of Huntsville African American Education

Thesis: This digital project is designed to take a look back at how Samuel Walker Houston went about founding Galilee Community School, some of the hardships he faced in his efforts, and how he led the small school with a single teacher when it began in 1907, to become consolidated with the Huntsville Independent School District in 1930.

Outline:

I. The foundation of Galilee Community School

A. Funding the school
1. The Jeanes Fund
2. Additional efforts to raise funds

II. Educational Idealism of Galilee Community School

Samuel Walker Houston Research Paper

Samuel Walker Houston
Modernizer of Huntsville African American Education

Many people are completely unaware of how African Americans were educated prior to desegregation. Samuel Walker Houston was one distinguished figure who took charge at the roots of this issue. Amongst other decorated achievements, he founded the Galilee Community School, which was most likely the first school for African American children in not only Huntsville, but all of Texas during this time. This research paper is a focus on how Samuel Walker Houston went about accomplishing such a feat, some of the hardships he faced in his efforts, and how he led the small school at Galilee with a single teacher when it began in 1907, to become consolidated with the Huntsville Independent School District in 1930.
Before looking at the Galilee Community School, it’s important to take a look back at Samuel Walker Houston’s earlier years to get an idea of how he became such the pioneer in education. He was very different from his African American peers, and was also undoubtedly a lucky child because he never had to be a slave to anyone. Furthermore, unlike many other African American children he had parents that could support him financially to pursue future endeavors. He could learn to read and write from the direct teachings of and the examples set by both parents. Samuel had additional help in his education most likely from the church or community schools around the area 1 which prepared him to attend Atlanta University, and even attending any sort of college was something that was quite uncommon to most African Americans during this day and age. After attending college Samuel had quite a resume, having worked in Washington D.C. and running the Huntsville Times, a local newspaper aimed at the black community. After that, he taught at Grimes County in the Red Hill Community School, which may have been his first real inspiration to be an educator. 2 After his time there, he made his way to Galilee in 1906 and began teaching in the small community. The building at Galilee was a twelve-by-fourteen foot wooden box with one door and two windows. It was so dilapidated that Samuel refused to teach there, and even used $4 out of his $35 a month salary to rent the local Galilee Methodist Church to teach out of. He and one other teacher, Miss Mamie Arnold taught grades one through six there. 3
With Samuel Walker Houston teaching in the church, the foundation for the Galilee Community School was finally set. Houston and a board of trustees very soon thereafter bought one acre of land to build a school rather than continue renting out the church. The new school was built, consisting of a four-room building and a separate vocational shop in the first year; it also took on a new name, Sam Houston Industrial Training School. The school was a large success, and by the second year four and a half extra acres were purchased in addition to three new teachers hired to support a student body of eighty young African American students. 4 Since the school was growing at an exponential rate, the Sam Houston Industrial Training School needed supplementary funds to pay for expenses. Samuel Walker Houston was dedicated in his efforts to making the school a major success, so he found ways to raise money for the school. Some of those resources were raised by the state government, private citizens, and such philanthropic organizations as John D. Rockefeller’s General Education Board, the Rosenwald Fund, and the Slater Fund.5 Another fundraiser for the school was the Jeanes Fund, which was the subject of a bit of controversy for a moment in the school’s history.
The Jeanes Fund was set up by Anna Thomas Jeanes, a Quaker of Philadelphia, who survived all other members of her family and inherited the family's wealth. She was a remarkable woman with a vision for Christian peace which she used her fortune to promote. Anna felt that others had given to the larger schools, so if she could, she wanted to help "the little country schools." Therefore, in 1907, Jeanes set aside one million dollars to fund a program for the fostering of rudimentary education in small, African-American rural schools. The fund was formally named the Negro Rural School Fund, Anna T. Jeanes Foundation. James Dillard was appointed the fund’s president. 6 The importance of this fund became apparent in 1912, when one of the teachers for Sam Houston Industrial Training School failed to make sure certain reports were filed, so Samuel Walker Houston had to step in to assure that the funds were not lost. In a lengthy letter to President Harry Estill of Sam Houston Normal Institute, (now Sam Houston State University) Samuel Walker Houston said the domestic science teacher had been so negligent in this particular that Dr. Dillard threatened to discontinue the appropriation another year and perhaps some. He then said that he would even go as far as to getting rid of the teacher in order to make sure that the reports were sent in a timely fashion.7 This truly showed the lengths that Samuel Walker Houston was willing to go to in order to keep his school alive, and if anyone that was part of the school did not handle their affairs correctly, then he would find somebody that would. However, the matter never got out of hand, because President Estill contacted Dr. Dillard, in which Dr. Dillard replied that it was not intended that the teacher working under the Jeanes Fund give so much of her time to his (Houston’s) school. 7 This is just one example of Samuel Walker Houston’s commitment to his school, which is one important philosophy he learned from his parents, as well as other great leaders that he came in contact with and learned about. He carried this mentality throughout his school, and incorporated these values into the curriculum of the classrooms.
Samuel Walker Houston ran his school based off of the principles of General Samuel Chapman Armstrong, founder of Hampton Institute. The curriculum at the school consisted of not only a basic education, but also self sufficiency of all students that attended. 8 The education was also directed toward the time period, and since women’s role in society at that time focused primarily on the home, they were taught sewing, cooking, and basic science among other things. Boys were taught woodworks, manual training, carpentry, mathematics, and general problem solving tactics. 9
The Sam Houston Industrial Training School would set the precedent for African American students in the Huntsville area and later on a larger scale in Texas. Samuel Walker Houston’s relentless efforts to spread knowledge to young minds proved very successful to many students who without him, may not have come to be such flourishing minds in their respective studies.

Footnotes:

1. Prather, Patricia and Monday, Jane. Joshua Houston: From Slave to Statesman. (Denton: University of North Texas Press, 1993).p.1

2. Lede, Samuel Walker Houston, p. 26; Hazel Price Interview, 1992

3. Prather, Patricia and Monday, Jane. Joshua Houston: From Slave to Statesman. (Denton: University of North Texas Press, 1993).p.2

4. Lede, Samuel Walker Houston p. 29, 35

5. Handbook of Texas Online, s.v.”,” http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/HH/fhobs.html (accessed September 14, 2009).

6. Louisa County Historical Society, "The Jeanes Fund." http://louisaheritage.org/enlg/JeanesFund.htm (accessed October 18, 2009).

7. Estill, Harry F. "President's Papers." Newton Gresham Library Archives (1912-1913): Aug 1912-Mar 1913.

8.Lede, Samuel Walker Houston, p. 31

9. Prather, Patricia and Monday, Jane. Joshua Houston: From Slave to Statesman. (Denton: University of North Texas Press, 1993).p. 3

Presentation at Huntsville State Park

Yesterday we finally held our major class presentation at Huntsville State Park. The turnout was great, with probably seventy or eighty people having showed up. Everything ran smoothly, from the setup, to the cooking, to the speeches, until the finish. When I presented my speech over the CCC, I felt that it was pretty much well received by the audience, (although there were a few students who acted as if that they really didn't care to be there) and I enjoyed sharing the information on such an important aspect of the park. I took from the experience that it's a lot harder than it seems to produce not only a public history exhibit, but also takes quite a bit of diligence and dedication as a group to make a function similar to this successful. I commend Dr. Littlejohn and my classmates for stepping up to the challenge and tackling this project head on swimmingly. In the future I know that I'll be less stressed without a doubt when it comes to a project of this magnitude.

Huntsville State Park Practice Run

Although our class planned to make a practice run at the Huntsville State Park on October 6th, we went ahead and met in the classroom to resolve all of our issues before the big event. Overall I think the class did a great job making preparations and getting together the necessary materials needed for the presentation. We had the plans ready for the food, geocaching, music, and for all of our group project boards. It seemed that the morale for the event was high and we were all anxious to get it kicked off. Personally I felt well organized and completely ready for every situation (best or worst case scenario) that I could have been put in. It took me about four and a half hours to complete my project and speech, but I was better coordinated for having spent so much time on it. My project was about the CCC and their contributions to the park, and since they played such a large role in building the park, I think that the message was well obtained. I was lucky to have a topic that was such an important factor for the park, because there was an abundance of information regarding the topic.

Huntsville State Park Project

On October 8 our class is making a presentation at the Huntsville State Park over the Great Depression era (which is when the park was built). We are all chipping in to make the presentation as big of a success as we hope to. I am making a sort of exhibit over the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) showing the contributions in creating portions of the park including the dam that makes Lake Raven, and the group recreation hall. I am also part of the committee in charge of food for the event. I am hoping to get a donation from Wal-Mart to help finance the operation. Hopefully there will be about one hundred people that show up to our presentation, so any help we can get will be great. I also have to go to the store and see how much it all will cost for all of the stuff that we need for the food portion of the day. I am anticipating the turnout for the day, and also hoping that everything goes as smooth as I have invisioned during this planning process.

Huntsville State Park Initial Visit

From my visit to Huntsville State Park, I learned it is a 2000 acre plethora of forestry and history that opened in 1938. I had never been to the park before and it was quite a beautiful area with alot of cool stuff to see and fun activities to take part in. It has hiking, biking, camping, and horseback riding amongst other things to do for everyone that is looking for a little extra adventure during their visit. The thing that attracted me the most about the park is the ability to see all of this history and to take part in the activities I listed above. I also learned that the Civilain Conservation Corps built the dam at the park, as well as the recreation hall at the park. The park is an awesome sight, and I invite anyone who has not already seen it to go and take part in some great learning experiences and maybe even some extracuricular fun as well. I hope as our class project at the park draws closer, I will learn much more about this place.

Visit to the County Clerk

Looking for some cool information and having trouble finding it? There is one place I know of that's pretty valuable, and free of charge. Look no further than the County Clerks office in Huntsville Texas (or any city for that matter). I found out that they hold public and private records of basically everything that went on and is still going on in the city's history including deeds, wills, etc... I happened to stumble across some documents over Samuel Walker Houston which showed that he had two land sales during his lifetime. That may seem uninteresting to some people, but the sale of the land could have held some significance, so even the smallest bit of information could lead to some striking discoveries given some time and patience. I also looked up a will to J.L. Pritchett and found out that he left quite an estate to his widow. This kind of information is also helpful because early in a city's history a lot of people were connected in ways that we may not initially realize. It's just one big room full of paper trails that are waiting to be pieced together to discover some pretty cool stuff. A person can even track down their family history at the County Clerk's Office with some help of course from the experts that work there. I recommend this fine institution to anyone looking to find those hard to reach answers, it's closer than one might think.

Isaac's Storm, a Horrible Truth

I recently watched the video on Erik Larson's book "Isaac's Storm", and I was nothing short of amazed. What was even more intense about it was the fact that Isaac Cline was known for a very long time as a hero of Galveston, although he was everything but such. I'm going to give a review of the video to go into the details of the tragedy that occurred in Galveston in 1900, to which many people are unaware of. In 1900, Galveston was a booming city that claimed to be the next "New York of the coast of Texas" to many people. It is three miles wide, twenty-seven miles long, eight feet above sea level, and was connected to the mainland at that time by only three railroad tracks, and wagon bridge. A seawall had been discussed amongst city council members, but never put into place because one man (Isaac Cline) had thought the city was virtually untouchable. Isaac was an intelligent man, having mastered meteorology (primitive as it was) and sought his doctorate degree as well. His major downfall proved to be his arrogance, thinking he knew everything about meteorology when obviously he didn't. He put 37,789 lives at risk and after the storm was over over 6,000 (1/6 Galveston's population) had perished because he wouldn't let go of his beliefs. He said that anyone who thought a major storm could hit Galveston "was a victim of absurd delusion" ; even his brother's warnings couldn't convince him to change his mind about the storm. He dismissed his brother Joseph the night before the storm hit, and even on the day that the storm made landfall despite the many warning signs that he had ignored. Either by cowardice or lack of a soul, he lied about the event that took so many lives to the National Weather Bureau saying that he had given ample warning, raised the flag, and even ran along the beach screaming for people to take shelter (which nobody recalls ever having seen). Although Isaac turned out to be quite a scoundrel, he wasn't the only one at fault. Head of the National Weather Bureau Willis Moore made a significant contribution to this mass execution as well. He sent U.S. forecasters to Cuba (Cuban meteorology was far more equipped than us since they dealt with these storms on a more regular basis) and shut off all telegraphing from them because he was as arrogant as Cline was. He also was the one who labeled Cline a "hero" after tragedy struck, fearing that the Weather Bureau would catch the blame and be held accountable for what the ultimately caused. This book/video certainly shed some new light on me, and further pushed me away from believing just any information I am spoon fed by people with agendas. It was ultimately a painful lesson to learn, but tragedies like this one happen every day and it's important that we know the truth.

The Evolution of America's Supreme Court

I had the opportunity to sit in on Dr. John Domino's great lecture on the Supreme Court this past Thursday and picked up some good insight on the subject. Going into the lecture I really had never perceived the Supreme Court as an evolving body in itself. It had always been portrayed to me as a group of justices who had the final say in a court case, but Dr. Domino views the Supreme Court in a different light. He talked about the way there have been three major "evolution" periods that have taken place that deal with different aspects of America. The first period was in America's birth as a nation which dealt with mainly the supremacy of the constitution and state matters. The second period took a long time to get to, but in the 1920's-1930's we began to notice a shift in the content in which the Supreme Court dealt with. They started to regulate business, and deal with Civil Rights and Civil Liberties more. Their role in society started taking a new and larger shape. Finally the third stage (1937-present) really hones in on issues that we have never before dealt with. They are having to dissect the Bill of Rights and interpret what our forefathers (might have) meant when they put this government together. In addition they are more active than ever in Civil Rights and Civil Liberties cases, in an effort to make equality something that every American can enjoy. I was pretty shocked when I realized that our Justices have taken such a large responsibility when (I speak for myself here) life in America is taken for granted in the most extreme ways. Its good to know that someone is watching out for our well-being, so hats off to those awesome Supreme Court Justices, they have a tough job and they may have differing opinions from me at times but I have a new found respect for what they do.

Thomason, More Than Just a Room in the Library

The Thomason room at the Newton Gresham Library is a unique and amazing way to come across pearls in local history that would otherwise be sitting unused in the archives.Cheryl Spencer and Barbara Kievit-Mason were quite helpful and intuitive in answering all questions I had with my topic. As I mentioned in my previous blog, I'm writing up a project on Samuel Walker Houston. Ms. Spencer guided me in finding two articles over Samuel Walker Houston. Both of the documents came from The Huntsville Item (a local newspaper in Huntsville, Tx), one from 1919, and the other from 1945. The first of the documents (1919) talked about the state of the school that Samuel Walker Houston founded. It focused on the areas of improvement that the school needed such as dormitories, heating, and lack of funding for projects at the school. The latter of the two documents (1945) is more or less an obituary for Samuel Walker Houston, and it also lists his accomplishments during his lifetime. I have also been informed that there are additional letters from Samuel Walker Houston to Harry F. Estill (President of Sam Houston State during the time) that I look forward to glancing over. I'm very pleased in these findings and am counting on posting my future discoveries.

Newton Gresham Library, A Suprising Resource!

As we all continue our quest for new and creative (but still credible) information on the ever growing Internet, we should keep in mind a very local, accessible, and quite helpful resource in close proximity to us. The Newton Gresham Library catalogues and other search engines provide a great way to safely get accurate information that we may not have otherwise found. It's easy these days to just hop on google, type in a keyword, and take John Doe's word for whatever it is we are searching for. In Public History there is more finite research involved, which is why we have to pick through some of the nonsense we see on wikipedia. In my Digital Project over Samuel Walker Houston, I spent a significant amount of time searching for any rational evidence on the library search engines. The only two documents that I can describe on my blog are two photos of Samuel Walker Houston. The other books are physically in the library and I haven't had the opportunity to get my eyes on them just yet, but nonetheless a picture is still worth a thousand words. According to Walker County Treasures (the website that the library referred me to) the first photo (left) is Jeff Hamilton (former slave of Sam Houston), Samuel Walker Houston (former slave of Sam Houston) and unidentified man are gathered together at the Texas Centennial celebration event. During the time of this photo, Samuel Walker Houston had already founded Galilee Community School and was currently principle of Samuel Houston High School in Huntsville. The other photo (top right) is a photo of him at his brother's wedding with the rest of his family. It's interesting to see his transformation throughout the years and to see images of the man that I have read and heard so many stories of. I would definitely recommend using these helpful tools for anyone looking to do any kind of research.

Censorship and Truth from the Smithsonian

On June 28, 1995 The Enola Gay made its debut as an exhibit in one of Americas finest museums, The Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. There was a whirlwind of controversy surround the exhibit years prior to the inauguration of the plane that vastly aided in the end of World War II. Martin Harwit, of the National Air and Space Museum (NASM) had made an attempt to revise several previous versions of the exhibit that was seen by many people to suggest that America was the aggressor in the atomic bombing of Japan. Among these people who lashed out toward the exhibit were General Merrill A. McPeak of the U.S. Air Force, and even Paul Tibbets who was the pilot of the plane. Their argument was that previous versions of the exhibit showed an immense amount death and destruction in Japan, yet didn't show enough of America's destruction of Pearl Harbor. They also suggested that it seemed almost tasteless in nature toward Japan to put all of these things in the exhibit for the public to view. The Secretary of the Smithsonian at the time when the exhibit made its initiation, Michael Heyman, decided to put up a simple version of the exhibit on display which left out most of the facts about the day the bomb was dropped on Japan. This was nothing like the previous version the former Secretary Robert McCormick Adams and Martin Harwit of the NASM had fought so hard to attain. They believed that the presentation should accurately portray what the Enola Gay brought upon Japan, and show the aftermath. In my opinion I think that the historians were correct in their original plan. Yes they could have made some revisions to make America seem like she was only retaliating to the devastation at Pearl Harbor, but the overall story of the Enola Gay WAS about bringing the end to the war. Everyone knows that there is casualties in war, and showing those who perished in Japan would not be a sign of America flexing their muscles at other countries saying "look what we can do to you", but rather it is a reminder of the devastation that war brings all countries. That in itself would be a reason to stay peaceful. It seems wrong to change history books and exhibits to censor out things that we might feel uncomfortable with, but the truth of the matter is that they did happen how they happened. It seems like the military felt guilty about the situation and were trying to save face about something that happened 50 years ago, when there is nothing we can do to change it now. I hope in the future we can learn that the truth will sooner or later come out, and history can teach us all how to live the right way.

Public Museums... Fact or Fiction?

One of the most difficult questions that humans ask is "Where do we come from?". Of course it can be simple, but at the same time it can be very complex to answer. Museums offer evidence to help search for questions that we have about our past. They provide clues, backgrounds, and stories of mankinds' puzzling timeline that assist us in bridging the gap between then and now. These organizations may seem harmless and helpful, but are we getting the entire truthful story of our past? In Professor Jordanova's essay "Public History", museums are called into question on the issue of whether they are instructing people accurately about history, or if the museums are just setting up an array of bells and whistles that appeal to the masses. Bearing that in mind museums have become "major cultural forces" in showing the populace items of the past, and aren't really aimed at professional historians. Another thing to think about when gathering information from museums is the way they get funding. Museums can recieve goverment funding, and ultimately that means it will be the government (or whomever is funding the establishment) that will have the final say in what is being displayed within the confines of these exhibits we have all come to know and love. When visiting these places, it's important for people not to form opinions based only on the colloquialisms, generalizations, and idioms of heroes and villains. People should go in with an open mind, collect data, and filter through it by researching more about topics before drawing any conclusions. Everyone needs to approach the museum ticket counter with a "buyer beware" sense, so we are not forgetting and leaving out parts of history that may dissapear before future generations are able to analyze them for themselves.

An Untold History of The Alamo

Most Texans recognize The Alamo as a symbolic landmark of bravery and relentless heroism. The lay public thinks back to the story they were told of a handful of bold Texans fighting against all odds. I thought it very interesting to discover the history of The Alamo prior to that fateful February day in 1836 that would forever transform the image of the site. The Alamo Exhibit showed a somewhat intimate past of the location contrary to what it symbolizes today. The Alamo was once home to missionaries and their families, a wharehouse for supplies, and even a store open to the general public. I would have never guessed that there was actual peace for a given amount of time prior to the Texas Revolution, although the appearance of the place today seems everything but intimidating. It's easy to miss the backstory of The Alamo though, since we Texans only get half of the information in our Texas History classes in most cases. It is made out that the heroic Texans stormed in, seized, and conquered the Mexican Army but were eventually defeated. I was not aware that the Mexicans had been there for so long before the battle had taken place, and it's interesting to look back on this scene in a different light.